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03-26-2013, 06:49 PM
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Some people putting their hope in our Candida treatment with Lufenuron are in fact suffering from something that can’t be distinguished symptom-wise; neuro-Lyme. These people are so sick that they are unable to work and so miserable that they’re seriously contemplating suicide. Everything I write is my personal opinion, based on scientific research by others. I do not have all the answers. (1)


*Author: Sarah Vaughter
We are looking for a few people who are interested in doing self-treatment with a novel antifungal (non-prescription) that works well against Candida infection.


Chronic Candida-Albicans/Glabrata etc. infection. Diagnosis from a *mainstream* infectious disease specialist. NOT a spit test, muscle test etc.

We will send you a bubble envelope with 15 grams of Lufenuron, and you have to agree to give feedback on this forum if the treatment helps substantially, that's the only catch.

The retail price of 15 grams of Lufenuron is 275 USD.

[email protected]

*Author: Polly
Do you have any studies that show it works? All I can find is animal studies that say it doesn't work.

*Author: Sarah Vaughter
We came across animal studies that showed Lufenuron an excellent antifungal for other fungi than Candida, and tried it on ourselves and the results were spectacular.

However Candida quickly gets resistant against Lufenuron (about as quick as against Fluconazole).

We would like to find out how well it works against Candidiasis in humans, therefore we are giving 15-gram doses away to people with a mainstream Candidda diagnosis. Some people say it does not work at all, but they have been diagnosed by a kinesiology muscle test. Others are extremely enthousiastic and say it cured them, but they have a "mainstream" Candida diagnosis.

We don't have sufficient data points, hence this "experiment" :-)

*Author: Justin
No thanks.

I wouldn't do anything to help a pharma company.

Remember the Norfolk Virus? When the U.S. government had to step in and chastise a drug company for purposfully spreading a virus.

I've never heard of any anti-fungal succeding short term.

Just my 3 cents.

*Author: Sarah Vaughter
We are not a pharma company.

We are a married couple.

*Author: andrea
something dosnt add up here , very supicious to me

*Author: Sarah Vaughter
Well, we will send you Lufenuron for free, how's that suspicious?

(or do you think we will send you poison? ;-)

It's not suspicious.
We are trying to sell Lufenuron against Candida, but first we must know whether it works on more people.

We therefore decided that the best way to do this is to give away a few dozen "cures", and if it works, people will tell others, and then we will start selling.

Ethical, no?

I have a site here:

and here:

And the treatment is not short-term. 5 days of taking Lufenuron (15 grams) means 6 weeks of tissue levels high enough to kill Candida.

This because Lufenuron accumulates in fat tissue and then is slowly released.

*Author: Kelly
I found a few sites that refer to human consumption, I appreciate the honesty in that they indicate that it may work for some, but like other antifungals, can be resisted by the yeast, and may eventually become ineffective.

I probably wouldn't volunteer at this point in my life due to the fact that I've tried several of the more hard core antifungals - nystatin, diflucan - and they didn't work for me. I imagine it might be worth trying if you'd just started having chronic yeast problems - and may not have developed a strain resistant to the drug.

Still, Sarah, you 'd better do your homework or you could have in a legal mess if your plan backfires. You may end up with people who have negative side affects, etc, and they'll blame it on your drug just due to its experimental nature and the fact that you sent it to them for free - even if you are sincerely trying to market what you feel is a good thing.

*Author: Trotter
It appears genuine to me and I don't see anything wrong with this form of marketing. If it ends up helping most people that trial it, then I think that's a win win situation.

The product does seem to work very well for at least some people with candida. Don't count on a cure though.

Lufenuron does appear to be fairly safe, but without long term human trials you just can't be certain can you, and the dosage is much higher than given to cats and dogs. Also be sure to satisfy yourself about the purity of the product (re contaminants), considering its source (China).

I think one has to weigh up the risks with the potential benefits. It's an individual thing. Some people treat themselves like lab rats, while others are scared to take an aspirin. I know if I had a really bad case of systemic candida and was at my wits end I would most certainly try Lufenuron. In my current situation, I think I'll sit on the fence for now and see how others go.

*Author: Polly
Is there a possibility that you could get an MD to help you with this exploratory study? It sure would be nice if you knew more about when it is likely to help.

Do you know anything about this being on the list of pesticides recommended to be banned? It is listed under the category of toxic and environmentally persistent.

*Author: Sarah Vaughter
Sure, we know.

Lufenuron kills microscopic aquatic animals with a chitin exoskeleton, just like it kills lice, ticks and fleas, due to the fact that it interferes with Chitin synthesis (half of the fungal cell was is made of Chitin as well).

Humans do not synthesize Chitin, and Lufenuron therefore is inert to them.

*Author: Marilyn in Sidney
With all respect, sometimes a little knowledge is a dangerous thing... Candida absorbs mercury, stores it in its cell wall. The whole concept of taking a substance that is stored in the fat cells and released over a period of five or six weeks is really dangerous for very toxic people. In effect you will be taking a substance that once ingested is impossible to withdraw. In my particular case, I got extreme neurological symptoms from taking antifungals, because the released mercury ended up in my nervous system due to the fact that my elimination pathways were not adequate to deal with the sudden spike of heavy metals in the bloodstream. In people with compromised liver function, antifungals are in extreme burden. Dr. Lyn Hanshew repeatedly warns people that when you start killing Candida and other pathogens in the gut, you must have a substance to absorb the release of the neurotoxins and the heavy metals. I second what Kelly said, that you could end up with some very sick people very angry at becoming very sick. Please do some research on the relationship between fungi and heavy metals before you damage someone permanently.

*Author: Marilyn in Sidney
Mercury and Immune System Repression

It has been known for many years that mercury impairs the immune system. White cells can lose their motility and can die if exposure to mercury is sustained. With impairment comes a chronically susceptible to infections, if not chronic sickness.

Mercury is absorbed preferentially by yeast cells, bacterial cells, and molds. In fact, these types of pathogens are present in our body "by invitation" of our immune system. These organisms absorb phenomenal quantities of mercury and serve the supreme purpose of keeping us alive -- keeping the mercury from killing us. Thus, to kill off Candida indiscriminantly in adults with significant body burdens of toxic metals including mercury is not only foolish but potentially very dangerous.

*Author: Victoria in NY
Regarding the mercury-candida relationship. Do you think it is therefore better to try to get rid of the mercury before going after the candida? This is the approach I have taken. My last heavy metal test was normal for mercury (Yay!), but still high in lead. So now, I am focusing on the lead and the candida.

I am asking, because I have found several popular candida elimination protocols that suggest the candida must be starved and eliminated first, before removing the metals. I too had severe die off rxns when I tried things in this order. These protocols also recommend not taking an supplements or antioxidants until the candida is eliminated. But if the body is so weak and the elimination pathways are not functioning, the body is not strong enough to fight of the candida (or other pathogens) or to get rid of the toxins that are released during candida die-off or chelation therapies. Whew! There is so much conflicting info out there. It's a ful-time job to sift through it all. I think when I'm done with all this I'll go back to school and become a natural healthcare practitioner! I already bore everybody to tears with my helpful health suggestions. Might as well get paid for it!
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