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Soil Based Bacteria Caution
03-26-2013, 06:41 PM
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Soil Based Bacteria Caution
Soil bacteria could improve mood by influencing the immune system. Researchers exposed mice to a harmless soil microbe called Mycobacterium vaccae and had the rodents perform a behavioral task commonly used to test the efficacy of antidepressant drugs. Researchers found that the Mycobacterium vaccae bacteria-exposed mice continued tasks much longer than other control mice. The results are similar to those from a medical trial a few years ago in which human cancer patients treated with Mycobacterium vaccae bacteria reported improved mood and quality of life. However, this was not studied further because it didn’t seem to prolong life. Mycobacterium vaccae bacteria may affect the brain indirectly by causing immune cells to release chemicals called cytokines which influence neurotransmitters like serotonin. (1)

(1) http://www.raysahelian.com/soilorganisms.html

*Author: Polly
Any of you that are considering taking soil-based bacteria, should read pages 17 to 20 in this book.

The Health Detective's 456 Most Powerful Healing Secrets (Paperback)
by Nan K. Fuchs (Author)

If you go to Amazon, do a "search inside this book" for the word "soil." That should lead you to page 17

*Author: Justin
I agree with you Polly. My past probiotic had soil based bacteria.

Theralac does not.

It's not Threelac, which is a scam in my opinion.

Please check Theralac out and do some research into it.

What's Inside a Theralac® capsule?
Five Probiotic Species:

Lactobacillus acidophilus probiotic – 5 billion CFU
Lactobacillus paracasei probiotic – 5 billion CFU
Lactobacillus rhamnosus probiotic – 2 billion CFU
Bifidobacterium lactis probiotic (animalis) – 5 billion CFU
Bifidobacterium bifidum probiotic – 3 billion CFU
20 Billion Total Colony Forming Units (CFU)
2 prebiotics that stimulate the probiotics (patent pending).
Natural acid-proof gel formulation (patented).

40 Billion CFU at time of manufacture.

I haven't formed an concrete opinion on soil based bacteria as of yet.

Since time immoral people have been digging roots and eating them and the soil based bacteria on them. How can millions of years be wrong?

So for me I wonder if it is not just poor management of the companies that sell the products.

Don't get me wrong, we are in agreement here, I'm just giving both sides one grain of salt.

*Author: Justin
Here is one of the SBO's that I was consuming.

After reading wiki I am not worried about ingesting this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_subtilis

It is the only SBO that is in Garden of Life.

Although after reading Garden of Life I found it had only 5 billion cfu at manufacture which explains why I took 8 a day. Theralac had 40 billion cfu at manufacture.

This SBO is also found in natto which is extremly healthy. I'm sure there are other SBO's that I don't know about that are not so bengin.

*Author: Polly
With soil based bacteria, you don't use the high count. 2 billion has been shown to be effective. However, if you are going to use normal intestinal bacteria like L. acidophilus and B. bifidum, then I don't think you can find a study using only 2 billion. Studies will use on the order of 30 billion to 200 billion of the normal residents. From talking to others at this website, one would suspect that higher amounts are usually needed to make a difference when using the normal resident bacteria.

Notice that Primal Defense doesn't say how many CFU are in it. They do say 5 billion CFU with the Primal defense Plus, where they have added yeast. That long list of normal resident bacteria is great for marketing purposes. However, the amount is probably so small that it makes little difference to most people. There is nothing in his literature to suggest that these extra bacteria are synergistic. So, why are they in the mixture?

I believe it was Jordan Rubin's book that made the argument that we have been eating soil based bacteria since time immemorial.

However, just how much soil based bacteria and what type of mixture would be found clinging to a root vegetable? It is doubtful that we would be getting the same mixture with every bit of dirt we ingested. There is nothing to suggest that exposure to the same soil based bacteria in larger amounts for a long time is safe.

*Author: Justin
Agreed Polly. I had to take a LOT of Primal Defence Ultra for it too work. It did work, just had to take way too much.

I don't use it anymore because of its low CFU count.

Once I got Theralac and read the difference that is.

And felt the difference.
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